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No no no brutha...thats not how boxing works..LOL...U fight a fighter at their BEST...U dnt fight them coming off losses...The guys Pac fought coming off wins, were bums...the guys he fought coming off losses, where guys he ducked when they were primed...See in boxing, ur judged by ur LAST performance....Pac ducks them when their doing good, and he fights them when their looking bad coming off losses...see he should have fought shane before Floyd? di...just one example!

pac fought people coming off of wins and he fought people coming off of losses. and he came off of losses he knew he lost and worked his ass off to get where he is. i believe if pac can fight coming off of losses and learn from his mistakes like everyone is supposed to, then i assume people as tough and strong minded as boxers could get over a loss and improve where they have fallen. a loss is supposed to initiate? a time to learn not break you. anyways, i'll leave you alone.

Real champions dont fight losers coming off losses...Floyd's loss didnt affect him because he didnt feel like he LOST...Morales was embarrassed for 13? rnds...when u fight a fighter coming off a loss, he feels mentaly damaged like he has "something to prove"...Like he is an underdog and he has to WORK his way back to the top...a loser doesnt EARN a fight with a champion by losing...Champions who win, are rewarded in boxing...dont leave me a million comments cuz I cant read em all

pac got knocked out twice, that's EXACTLY my point! did it affect him in anyway? no! real champions get up after they get knocked down. sure he didn't literally do that because he was actually knocked out. but he did that in terms of progressing in life as a boxer. i'm not giving excuses, you are! and? i'm never said pac was a god. but he's the reason why i actually box. i'm not a pactard that screams floyd is a coward. at least, i give solid arguments in debates like this.

doesn't matter if defense isn't scored in the amateurs, my point is that floyd lost in general and since a loss is a loss, it should have still stuck in his mind, but he didn't let his past loss effect how he did in the pros. pac's not god, i JUST said he's still learning. and pac probably has the best lateral movement in the sport today atleast if not of all? time. i'm not saying he's the GOAT but his footwork is what makes him great. pac ko'ed ledwaba who was a pure boxer.

May lossed in the olympics cuz defense is not scored the way it is in the pros..LOL..And U think Pac is God that he is unbeatable...the guy cant fight boxers and he already got knocked out twice...Pac has NO lateral movement,? if u make him chase u and u use movement...quit making excuses

how did i know you were going to go there? a state again, may hurt his shoulder, he didn't throw punches. pac got cramps he didn't use his lateral movement to his fullest. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!? pac's not on roids! he stated that he'll take the random blood tests with no cutoffs in TWO interviews. all may needs to do is negotiate. you are? so quick to assume that when a fighter comes off of a lose, that he's washed up. look at pac when he loses and may's loses in the olympics!

When u fight pac defensively, he gets "cramps"...he uses that excuse all the time...and he beat Morales in the rematch cuz Morales was washed up coming off a loss to zahir rahim,..also Pac was drug tested? and he wasnt able to use roids in the first fight...he used roids in the rematch

LOSES? i was refering to the mosley fight genius. and pac doesn't have trouble with people who use movement. pac has trouble when he himself doesn't use movement. and he wasn't using movement in that fight. when pac is still, his opponent? moves, when he moves he confuses his opponents with HIS movement which can make them still. morales's movement wasn't as effective in the following two fights.

Floyd complained about his shoulder in the SECOND round, and he didnt? throw any punches the entire fight...Pac ALWAYS complains when he loses...He just doesnt know how to deal with fighters who use movement!

that's not what i meant with? ortiz. and anyway, i never said that floyd actually lost, i said he should have lost. he was obviously called the winner. lol, when floyd complains about his shoulder it's a valid excuse but when pacquiao complains about his calves, people say he was getting outboxed.

WOW Ortiz didnt run in that ONE sequence...seems? to me like he ran the entire fight..LOL...and Floyd lost to castillio because his shoulder was torn...he was complaining about his shoulder since the second round and didnt throw any punches the entire fight...I know u said it looks like Floyd dont get hit..its the exact opposite...it looks like he DOES get hit...he never gets hit cleanly!

ortiz didn't run. after that combo floyd threw, ortiz backed up. 2 seconds after that he came back his own. he not only threw the combo but he landed a good # of punches. of course floyd would wait in the corner with his right? hand. but waiting in the corner or ropes to counter is what almost made floyd lose against castillo. when you get floyd, you are winning more than you would fighting him in the center. thing with floyd is he can get hit but make it look like a miss.

haha just because u spar manny doesnt mean you are going to win a fight, train harder for the next? time

Ortiz was hurt cuz he was? backing up and running like hell..and when Floyd is "cornered"..he is a wildcat cornered...waiting with that right hand!

lol, if you hit floyd you've accomplished something. hitting him is really hard to do. if you land on him, that's hinting something. ortiz? wasn't hurt either. when floyd threw that 6-7 punch combo, he only landed 3. after floyd's rally ortiz came back with his own and cornered floyd multiple times. floyd wasn't pushing ortiz back, ortiz did that on his own. ortiz was the on throwing his weight around. there's a video i want you to watch mayweather vs ortiz-hbo illusions.

Floyd smiles because "I been there before"...He already said why he smiles...it IS an indication that he got hit, but thats not WHY he smiles...he smiles cuz he knows that when they land, they feel like their accomplishing something, so he? smiles cuz he knows that they are not...and I think he was hurting Ortiz cuz he was pushing Ortiz bac....Ortiz was running like hell so I think he was getting stung!

you know who else smiled because they've been there before? margarito. he wasn't smiling after the fight.? that's floyd's reaction to getting hit cleanly, pac's reaction is hitting his gloves together. those reactions are meaninless. if you're hit you're hit. when floyd was hitting ortiz, he wasn't hurting ortiz either just so happens ortiz was staying focused. ortiz landed 7 punches in single combos at times. yet he didn't get credit for them the scoring was a lil biased.

Alex have a filipina? gf?

Ortiz never had Floyd's attention....everytime he rallied,Floyd just smiled because he had been there before and I thought the fight ended exciting..In boxing anything can happen...people get KO'd in the first rnd...but that was a SHOCKING and VERY entertaining KO...Pacman is the ONLY fighter that I kno would touch ur gloves a million times...Floyd, Ali, SRL, SRR, Marvin Hagler would have ALL taken that shot cuz REAL CHAMPIONS cannot be trusted in the ring and they are VENEMOUS!?

they just don't want to admit it (a non-black can excel in sports without PEDs) or think that "a black man can't be racist". Many professional boxing journalists have covered this before:? At the same ages, Floyd Mayweather Jr. & Manny Pacquiao were fighting in the same weight divisions. Pacman gets more KOs because he GOES FOR THE KO. "Money" doesn't have as high a KO% because he is A CONSERVATIVE COUNTERPUNCHER. And YES: Sugar Ray Robinson is THE GOAT, not Ali, not Tyson, not Mayweather.

they just don't want to admit it (a non-black can excel in sports without PEDs) or think that "a black man can't be racist". Many professional boxing journalists have covered this before: At the same ages, Floyd Mayweather Jr. & Manny Pacquiao were? fighting in the same weight divisions. Pacman gets more KOs because he GOES FOR THE KO. "Money" doesn't have as high a KO% because he is A CONSERVATIVE COUNTERPUNCHER. And YES: Sugar Ray Robinson is THE GOAT, not Ali, not Tyson, not Mayweather.

also, no roads lead to mayweather. and no roads lead to pacquiao. all roads lead to the ring, and pacquiao and floyd are going down the roads. eventually they? will meet and that's where the crash happens. because manny is that asian driver that will turn without signaling and WAMM pac has his attention. but hey it can go either way. for all we now floyd might pull a drive by shooting on the asian driver. oh wait, the little asian might be in the triads he'll shoot back too :P

i wouldn't say that ortiz was cornering floyd, but he was getting his attention. floyd hasn't been hit like that in a long time. ortiz had a 60/40 chance. him being 40 of winning. but ortiz's headbutt was bad, but his apologies were even worse. then again, floyd didn't HAVE to ko him with his hands down. yeah, it was legal. "protect yourself at all times." but i'm pretty sure? the fans wanted to see a little more than that. because anyone can ko someone with their hands down.